The payee's air conditioning system only blows cold when driving

F30 air conditioning - not cold enough

  • I can't confirm either ...

    I also drove a lot of vehicles at work (VW, Audi, Peugeot etc ...)
    The climate in my F20 and F30 was now always worlds better for my reception. Even colleagues were amazed when you were out and about together, the car was standing in the sun for hours at 30 * and then you were in the car -> of course, first heat stroke from the still air in the car, but then -> engine on -> air conditioning on and most of them then said: Wow ... less than 2 minutes and already cool air from the air conditioning? Lasts forever with mine ...
    Also yesterday, the car was standing in the blazing sun at 34 * in Frankfurt from 9:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. and when I got in and set the air conditioning to Max, it was already so pleasant after a short time -> less than 5 minutes which I set back to about 20 *.

    Now something technical about it:
    With regard to the LO setting in other vehicles, the following may be the case:
    First question, what is installed?
    An air conditioning system or an automatic air conditioning system (called Climatronic at VW)
    The air conditioning can only be switched between warm and cold, usually in several stages, while the automatic air conditioning regulates the temperature to the desired temperature based on the interior temperature. So you set a degree number for the interior, e.g. at BMW at least 16.
    The LO setting on other vehicles indicates the lowest possible cold point at this point, this can theoretically also be 20 degrees if more is simply not inside. Mostly something around 14-16 degrees -> But this is definitely unhealthy for the body and circulation.
    However, every system works differently to regulate the temperature ...
    At VW, for example, the regulation usually starts with a full blower and the coldest level, while at Porsche and BMW, for example, a more pleasant and possibly healthier method is used.
    The climate increases the pressure of the wind in the event of a strong deviation (BMW = blower level goes up -> But it can still be controlled manually and at BMW it can also be regulated separately between cold and warm for the upper area in the controller in the middle of the dashboard, depending depending on the feeling) the number of degrees does not go straight to LO ... that is, BMW Pulls out the warm air and lets cooler air into the car, which has the effect that the car is cooled more pleasantly and faster. Other manufacturers usually only blow cold air into the car, which also explains why you then have to go to LO, for example, so that something is noticeable at all.

    But you also have to say that the way you receive things naturally differs from person to person ... some just like to drive in an ice chamber and others don't.

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    model
    F30 - sedan - 320d
    Construction year
    08 / 2014
    power
    kW 135 (PS 184)

    I had exactly the same problem you had a while ago. The cooling performance was more than poor, strangely enough, the air conditioning system had managed to bring the target temperature up to the first 10 minutes (7 degrees at maximum output). In addition, quiet flow noises could be heard from the refrigerant.
    Then I went to the workshop and lo and behold, the capacitor was broken and was replaced. Now it is cooling again, even at temperatures around 36 degrees first class.

    Can you also hear flow noises? Could be a sign of loss of income.
    How and by whom was it determined that there was enough refrigerant?
    Of course, the climate control panel can also be broken and the cause of the poor performance.

    I would advise you to go to a workshop, they can measure the temperature on the vents, and then nobody can say that the air conditioning is working properly. Unfortunately, there is little you can do yourself ...

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    place of residence
    Near Nuremberg
    model
    F31 - Touring - 330d
    Construction year
    12 / 2012
    power
    kW 190 (PS 258)

    How do flow noises sound and where do you hear them

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    130
    place of residence
    Room BB, Sifi
    model
    F33 - convertible - 440i
    Construction year
    07 / 2016
    power
    kW 240 (PS 326)

    Do the windows tarnish on the inside in damp weather?
    Maybe someone was so super smart and "forgot" to change the pollen fictional during the inspection

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    133
    model
    F30 - sedan - 320d
    Construction year
    08 / 2014
    power
    kW 135 (PS 184)

    Flowing refrigerant, difficult to describe, a slight hiss or hiss depending on the loss. Audible in the interior of the vehicle.

    Similar to the sound when the refrigerator switches itself off and the coolant is still circulating ... In most cases this is a sign that there is not enough refrigerant.

    Incidentally, the target temperature at maximum power is 6-7 degrees at the fan nozzles.

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  • The air conditioning is just not maintenance-free, in the long run, there is always refrigerant flutes. Climate check, fill up if necessary and it should run again

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    model
    F30 - sedan - 318d
    power
    kW 105 (PS 143)

    so the hissing / hissing noise has not yet occurred to me. (but I'm probably too distracted by the other rattling noises - different topic)

    When I have the air conditioning on AUTO and the car is fully occupied and people are talking, the windscreen tends to run up so that I have to switch to manual mode for the windscreen. I have already complained about this at the dealer. supposedly something was reprogrammed back then ... but didn't really help. allegedly the refrigerant was also tested there.

    my climate definitely doesn't cool as quickly as you describe your cars. my car is in the sun for about 9 hours during the day, too, heated up so that you can hardly reach the steering wheel. Open the window, set the air conditioning to MAX and head straight to the autobahn ... the air conditioning is running at full speed after approx. 10 minutes you can then switch back to AUTO, but you have to set the fan to the highest level.

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    model
    F31 - Touring - 320d
    Construction year
    06 / 2014
    power
    kW 135 (PS 184)

    The windscreen tends to run up, so I have to switch to manual mode for the windscreen


    Then something must be wrong with you. I've never had to use the windshield mode on myself, not even in winter when everyone got in with patches of snow on their shoes. (And certainly not in summer)

    greetings

  • If there is no technical defect and the cooling performance of the climate is subjectively perceived as being too weak, the coding on hot regions should bring something. I still know that from the older 6 series, where this could be set manually with low, medium and high cooling capacity. As I said - the characteristics of the cooling are changed to the technical maximum - otherwise there would be no differentiation to the EU version, for example.

    Diesels are OK in taxis and tractors but NEVER in a luxury car - or even a slightly expensive one. But yours still cleaner than a Volkswagen, Grandson!

    ... says my 98 years old grandma.

  • For the first time ever, I really needed my air conditioning and was also a bit disappointed. Max AC and only the front air vents active, it only got acceptably cold after I hit the federal road and leveled off at around 100km / h. During the Stop & Go in the city before, after the car had been in the sun all day, the cooling performance was a bit subdued. But what surprises me a lot more is that the ventilation starts to hum at the highest levels when you switch on the air conditioning, consequently also on the Max AC setting. At first I thought the fan had a shot, but as soon as the AC is off again, the humming is gone again ...... Problems with fogged windows or something like that but I don't have any and since the car was Premium Selection, I leave from that the climate was checked before buying in April this year.

  • So I don't understand either. My air conditioning is so cold that at some point I have to switch to warm because it's just way too cold. Even when the outside temperature is over 30 °, I never have to switch off the automatic - and that in Eco mode. I always keep the temperature at 21 degrees. And I haven't changed anything in the setting

  • But what surprises me a lot more is that the ventilation starts to hum at the highest levels when you switch on the air conditioning, consequently also on the Max AC setting. At first I thought the fan had a shot, but as soon as the AC is off again, the humming will be off again

    I have that too and after a short research on the net it came out that many F30s have this and that BMW is known.

    There should be a leaf in the flap control, when you drive to BMW the leaf or leaves will be removed first and then a "sieve" is built on it so that such dirt can no longer penetrate.

    I already have an appointment on Monday and I'm curious what will come of it.

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    place of residence
    Dusseldorf
    model
    F30 - sedan - 335i
    Construction year
    07 / 2013
    power
    kW 250 (PS 340)

    my climate definitely doesn't cool as quickly as you describe your cars. my car is in the sun for about 9 hours during the day, too, heated up so that you can hardly reach the steering wheel. Open the window, set the air conditioning to MAX and head straight to the autobahn ... the air conditioning is running at full speed after approx. 10 minutes you can switch back to AUTO, but you have to set the fan to the highest level.


    This, in turn, is a completely normal procedure for me after 9 hours of roasting in the sun - for every car. I am extremely sensitive to heat, especially when it is humid. After 9 hours of barbecuing, one cannot expect such a tin box to cool down to normal temperature after 1-2 minutes.

    And in time you should close the windows again.

    Greetings, Michael

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    If there is no technical defect and the cooling performance of the climate is subjectively perceived as too weak, the coding on hot regions should bring something.


    Should bring or bring?

    And what - from a purely technical point of view - would then exactly happen?

    Greetings, Michael

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  • Should bring or bring?

    And what - from a purely technical point of view - would then exactly happen?

    Did I already mention that the climate characteristics change. Flap control, target / actual temperature is different, after-cooling behavior when the target temperature is reached. The "solar influence" is taken into account by a lower temperature calibration of the automatic air conditioning. The compressor cycle is higher.

    Or to put it simply: hot country version = sport, EU = ECO-Pro. In both modes, the vehicle theoretically has the same power, no more kW. Still, one should notice a difference

    Diesels are OK in taxis and tractors but NEVER in a luxury car - or even a slightly expensive one. But yours still cleaner than a Volkswagen, Grandson!

    ... says my 98 years old grandma.